Oh I know it’s an oooold topic but I was reading back and came accross this reference to the sex lives of snails. I can only assume he intended that to mean “no sex lives”, but as a breeder of these little creatures I can assure him that snails get laid a plenty and often around 12 hours in one go, sometimes with foreplay of several hours involving several individuals. Snails are, you see, polyamorous hermaphrodites. And they feel no shame about their sluttiness!
—This comment pretty much sums up why I spend so much time commenting on Man Boobz.
“Took a video when I padded.
“I have most of my old videos up on YouTube, unlisted. I’m missing my first two, though (210 and 220). If anyone has them, please send them to me!”
So this is Git Bigger’s water padding video. He isn’t actually this big, but has acheived the effect using water filled hefty bags (!!!) under his clothes.
Padding isn’t something I’ve thought too much about as a fetish play alternative (it’s usually something gainer wannabes do by putting folded clothing under their shirts). But the look and feel of water padding is kind of amazing to me. It’s very, very difficult to find a partner who wants to gain weight, and even though I’ve now supervised more stuffing scenes than I ever thought I’d be able to, it’s not an easy scene to do with any regularity.
I’ve already started Googling for things like giant water bottles. A company named Fomentek makes huge ones, and there’s one on this sketchy spa site.
Of course, this leaves me with the problem of having to explain to a loved one about how I want them to wear a giant water bottle under their clothes…
I swear
this summer I am going to write that super pornographic fanfiction of “Dean Winchester Learns About Feminism and Queernes By Way of Massive Amounts of Sex” that I keep drunkenly telling Ellen about
it’ll probably involve Dean getting finger-banged by Jiz Lee
because shame is for losers
Dear Dude Who Likes Fatties,
It’s not your job to tell fat people how sexy fat people are. We don’t need you. You’re not a fat activist because you have a blog full of fat naked girls that you jerk off to. You’re just a pervert.
I’m not being rude, you’re being rude, appropriative, and ignorant. And it’s not my job to educate you.I just kinda cringed because I think about the fact that she used the word “appropriative”. I’m not understanding the context at all of appropriating. Maybe I don’t understand “fat culture”? Or maybe fat culture as it is on tumblr (and everywhere), is largely white, and rooted in a lot of ways in white supremacy.
I see that she’s trolling the “bbw” tag and I’ve said this before, bbw is used by a lot of people as a source of pride and empowerment. In my experience, I see a LOT of people of color use that term to define themselves and own the power in it.
There’s also shaming someone for being a pervert. Again, being perverted isn’t the issue here. There can be mutual and consensual perversion. The issue isn’t with the fact that this person is a pervert, it’s the fact that the perversion is without consent. Which I don’t think the above really addressed.
This post represents a lot of what is wrong with fat activism. Which is not understanding intersectionality and not understanding how fat folks are ridiculously oppressive of others who aren’t just oppressed on the grounds that they’re fat.
So I guess I’m kinda here to say, I don’t see the point in calling someone out when the person calling them out isn’t checking themselves/ I’m not giving you any cookies.
“There’s also shaming someone for being a pervert. Again, being perverted isn’t the issue here. There can be mutual and consensual perversion. The issue isn’t with the fact that this person is a pervert, it’s the fact that the perversion is without consent. Which I don’t think the above really addressed.” I agree with this so much because there is NOT enough distinction made in on-line fat activism regarding people enjoying a fat fetish CONSENSUALLY TOGETHER. Fetish is such a dirty (not in a good way) word in FA and I find it troubling.
I disagree with how Kyla uses “pervert” and “fetish”, though from the context of how she uses them, I feel my disagreement is more semantic so I usually don’t want to bring it up lest it be derailing. Ultimately, I feel this gets back to the point I was making on my blog today that its not my place as a fat admirer to object to this because fat admirers do experience privilege in comparison with fat women and all too often fat admirers act to enforce and reinforce that privilege. That some fat women respond with anger and resentment is a reaction I feel fat admirers need to respect, and not police.
I might also suggest that the issue of appropriation here has a duel meaning. In the one sense, we have fat admirers appropriating the oppression of fat women as a stand-in for our own oppression. Fat admirers rarely think thoughtfully about how our sexuality is shamed and stigmatized, instead just pointing to fat people as our proxies. Given that fat admirers as a community have a long history of doing very little to fight oppression of actual fat people when they could instead just present themselves as its true victim, I think calling this dynamic appropriation to be reasonable. There is also the more literal sense where fat admirers frequently appropriate and sexualize images and photos created to fight fat shaming. Here, they fully disregard (and sometimes disrespect) the context of the creation of these visuals and objectify and sexualize without consent the subjects of these visuals.
I think what Brian has said is really interesting and valid, but I also feel like a semantic discussion about perversion and consensuality is overshadowing quelola’s much more important point about the cultural differences in the way people of color use the term BBW vs. the way fat white women tend to see the term. I’m not 100% sure who Kyla was responding to or who quelola has in mind (Internet, why so vague?) but it is absolutely not the place of white fat activists to ‘call out’ people of color on their use of ‘bbw’ without the input of fat women of color.
I’m a fat Chicana and I’ve been neutral to semi-positive about the term BBW for a long time. I personally have never understood why BBW is such a dirty word in on-line fat activism. I don’t have a particular post in my mind cause I’ve seen a lot of “anti-bbbw” backlash over the years on say “notes from the fatosphere” for instance, and I’ve mostly left it alone ‘cause I’m not married to the term or anything. I just don’t relate to the negative feelings it evokes in people, and it’s largely white fat women I’m seeing who write about the term “bbw” negatively. Not telling people to start calling themselves bbw or anything, just not relating personally to being against it, I guess.
From the discussions I’ve seen about the term, and I think Kyla in particular has stated this as her reaction, I feel most of the negative association has absolutely nothing to do with people self-identifying as a BBW, but in how the term is used in a predatory manner by men who employ it as a label. People calling themselves a BBW isn’t the issue and I would dearly hope no one seeks to make it an issue because it shouldn’t be. At the same time, its fair for people to object to being labeled in a way that can be fairly seen to be sexualizing them without their consent.
I tend to be impartial on the term, but in such as its used by fat admirers to label and objectify women, its not my place to take issue with women who call out that behavior. At least in my experience, all anti-BBW discussions have revolved around that, not in how women self-identify.
Its worth noting that “BBW” is actually a trademarked term presently owned by a white male fat admirer with a very problematic history of misogynistic actions and openly disrespecting and exploiting fat women. I’m sure that plays into some of the apprehension about the term as well.
Yeah, I’m just gonna reblog this whole thing. This is like every issue I have with feederism and fat activism and sex positivity in a nutshell.
